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Does Black Flag Wing Chun have a form called the Siu Nim Tao, Chum Kiu?
Posted by Kenneth Lin
Asked on June 15, 2014 8:21 pm

No we do not.

Siu Nim Tao [小念头] [Small Mind] and Chum Kiu [尋橋] [Searching the bridge] are not part of Black Flag Wing Chun. The Siu Nim Tao [小念头] was created around the time of the Red Boat Opera period [mid 1800].

We don’t have these two forms of Little Idea [Siu Nim Tao] [小念头] nor Searching the bridge[Chum Kiu] [尋橋].

When I learnt the Vikoga Wing Chun, I learned about the Siu Nim Tao [小念头], I also discovered that 80-90% of the movements actually also exist in the Black Flag system. However, Some Sifus had only a few parts each. For example, One of my sifu, Sifu Tio Tek Kwie only recognized 8 movements.

After learning from many students of Kwee King Yang, I recognized all of them. I liked the way they structured the sequence of movements[Siu nim Tao]. I wanted to have a reference of the alphabet of our system from A to Z. I gathered all these movements from our Black Flag and using a very structured sequence that I like similar to Siu Nim Tao [小念头]to train the basic movements. I called it, in Fukiense, Siauw Liam Dou or Siu Lien Tao [小練頭] in Cantonese meaning first training or little training to train the basic movements as opposed to “small mind”[Siu Nim Tao/小念头]. Small mind Siu Nim Tao[小念头] has a different purpose.

We train, Siu Lien Tao [小練頭][First Training] to learn the basic movements first. The same thing is true for Chum Kiu [尋橋] or searching the bridge. In the Red boat opera WC’s Cham Kiu/searching the bridge, some of the movements we recognize them as also existed in our system in pieces however, Most of the movements in our system are not used. For example, we do not have a bong sau with an elbow out.

We use a lot of these similar movements (smilar to red boat’s Chum Kiu [尋橋]) to train the Wheel bearing body or Cotton body skill so that we can control the opponent’s bridge and destroy it (or “sinking the bridge”).

Based on this I created a systematic sequence that is easy to remember. I called it, the “Tim Kiao” /[沉橋] in Fukiense and Chum Kiu [沉橋]in Cantonese, which means “sinking the bridge”. We never try to search the bridge. We sink it.

In conclusion we do not have these 2 forms of Siu Nim Tao念头] / Chum Kiu [尋橋]. We do have Siu Lien Tao [小練頭]as first training and little training and Tim Kiao / [沉橋] as sinking the bridge

Posted by Kenneth Lin
Answered On June 15, 2014 9:05 pm